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Posted by: House of Bast Post Reply
02/20/2015, 22:05:52

Would anyone happen to have a general idea how much African Trade beads have appreciated in say, the past 8 to 10 yrs? I'm also interested in a good book about African Trade beads, or predominantly African Trade beads, if there is one available. Thank so much!



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African Trade beads: changes over the years
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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/21/2015, 00:00:33

Prices are up, selection is down...This year at Tucson there was much less variety of unique trade beads, and more and more new material to fill the tables.

The demand in China for the ancient "Mali dig" agate and carnelian has the more successful African traders bringing a lot of that material, along with the better old coral out of Nigeria, straight to Hong Kong.For example, the long faceted carnelian beads made in Idar Oberstein of material from Brazil that I used to get for 10.00 - 12.00 a strand 15 years ago were 150.00 a strand direct from a trader in L.A. just before the Tucson shows. I saw none at Tucson, and have seen none for a few years. The demand in China for these drives that price, as they are being brought directly there for use as blanks for making the new "dzi" - confirmed by our favorite African trader who has brought them there by the flight bag full. Some American collectors have sold their stashes of these back to the Africans at a handsome profit.

Prices on the eBay market for some certain beads haven't changed too much - 25.00 for a "pink pineapple" is still a price frequently seen, the "Baule Face" bead may have gone down just a little. Prices for nice 6-layer chevrons from the Africans have risen, but the price customers are willing to pay seems to have gone down a bit, probably due to the influx of the Chinese chevrons resembling the "African Trade" Venetian ones that came on the market 2006 - 2008.

Overall, the prices for nice strands of trade beads has gone up, perhaps 3 or 4 times in the last 15 years. Everyone is going to be able to give specific examples from their own experience, I hope others will share here.

For wonderful visual document of beads from the African trade, the Picard series, vol. 3 - 7 is still the best. From the Picard Trade Bead Museum in Carmel Valley, CA


Related link: http://www.picardbeads.com
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Posted by: House of Bast Post Reply
02/21/2015, 05:14:41

Thank you so much, Joyce, very helpful!
I'm asking because I recently acquired a pretty big collection of African Trade via inheritance, and it looks like she stopped buying in or around 2005.
Last night I was checking "antique African Trade" beads on Etsy (47 pgs.!) and I was shocked @ some of the prices. I have always collected African Trade, but her collection is a completely new realm for me.



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Just a suggestion
Re: Re: African Trade beads: changes over the years -- House of Bast Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadweyr Post Reply
02/21/2015, 06:42:13

Just a suggestion don't look at asking prices for beads. Use ebay or other auction sites to look at completed auction to see what things are actually selling for. People will ask all kinds of crazy prices but almost never sell at those prices unless they are lucky.
Wayne



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Posted by: Joyce Post Reply
02/21/2015, 07:14:35

That's where eBay is a better source of info than etsy, as you can see the "sold for" price on eBay. Also, track sellers for awhile, it's interesting to see....
some actually sell only 10% of the beads they list.



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Great advice, thanks so much!
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02/21/2015, 11:45:15



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Posted by: beadbox Post Reply
02/21/2015, 11:53:27

Try the trade pages here. Free to list beads and collectors and designers buy up good beads if priced reasonably.

-Matt



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Posted by: House of Bast Post Reply
02/21/2015, 17:24:04

Thanks for the info! I will keep that in mind. Right now I don't have any intentions to sell, I plan to design some pieces. Many of these pieces will be donated to my late Friend's favorite charities for fundraising purposes in her memory. (silent auctions, etc) However, you just never know. I do know I have a lot of research to do. She had a lot of the pieces tagged, w/ vendor info, what it was, how much she paid. And like I said, she seemed to stop buying around 2005.



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