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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
01/19/2015, 12:11:44

Hi everyone. I recently purchased this enormous strand of (what I believe to be old) Turkomen silver beads. They are strung on a fab old silver woven chain & have what appear to be original felt circles separating the large beads. I want to wash these, as I typically clean my silver with soapy warm water, but I'm wondering if rather than taking the necklace apart I can simply douse the entire lot (felt & all). The felt separators are old, rather crispy hard & although I don't really want to destroy them, perhaps this will benefit them as well. Any thoughts? Also, I know these beads are still being produced, or have been in the recent past, but I believe these to be quite old. Does anyone have any perspective on this? Thanks for your help! Lynne

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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
01/19/2015, 12:12:42

Some more shots......

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01/19/2015, 12:13:34

Last 2 (I think :)

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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
01/19/2015, 13:43:28

Hi Lynn,

I am wondering whether washing them would risk affecting their patina?
As for the felt, I imagine it would soften -and I would approve of that.
But, I would do little more than rub the silver a little with my thumb.

Just Fred



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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
01/19/2015, 19:29:38

I always do that :)...it's my favorite way to clean old silver, but there is so much silver & my thumbs were aching after one bead !!! ;)
Such a massive necklace,,but maybe that's what I should be doing...It was just a bit more of a struggle than it typically is..but THANKS for your help! and belated Happy New Year to you...Lynne



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Fabric conservators would most likely have some ideas about the wool
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
01/19/2015, 14:27:46

Generally, I would not rush to submit the wool to either soap or water, lest whatever lanolin is remaining in it get removed, or dye seep out.



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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
01/19/2015, 19:31:14

I didn't think of that..in fact I thought perhaps the felt would soften up (& clean up) a bit which would be nice. Thanks for your thoughts..much appreciated! Lynne



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Posted by: JRJ Post Reply
01/20/2015, 02:26:08

I would suggest cleaning lightly with Q-tips that are wetted but not saturated in a dilute non-ionic detergent. Apply light pressure. Do not saturate the Q-tip so the cleaner gets onto the felt. Wipe with clean water using a wet but not completely saturated Q-tip, cotton swab or un-dyed, lint free cloth and dry immediately. First, if possible, test the pressure and dilution in the least visible area; work one small section at a time and "do no harm;" therefore use the lightest pressure and weakest dilution possible to remove surface dirt. It may facilitate cleaning if you mask the felt (perhaps using a mylar "donut" with a slit cut along the radius and slipped in over the felt to protect it from the liquid on the Q-tip; don't use tape or anything that will leave a residue). I suggest the following for sources of non-ionic detergent and, possibly, other cleaning materials: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZvBqyhhWQvQJ:www.nps.gov/museum/publications/conserveogram/10-02.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us.



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Thank you for this info!
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Posted by: rubyzane Post Reply
01/21/2015, 14:10:08

I've never used anything like this, so I will definitely read up on the link you provided & investigate. I have many other items that I've never touched but have wanted to touch up clean in very specific areas of the bead or silver, so this will be extremely helpful. Thanks so much for taking the time to let me know! Lynne



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