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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/16/2014, 11:03:39

It's about half an hour and interrupted by a few annoying 15-second ads, but I found it fascinating - almost half a year to create a replica of a Ming vase, with great photos of the various technicians, equipment, methods, including an interview with a scientific researcher about the enamels analysis. Awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dDTR8SPu8 (skip past whatever the introductory puppet nonsense is)



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And now that we know how long it takes, would you pay $20 each for these beads?
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/17/2014, 16:08:16

eBay item 221635499379

If they were $5 in 1973, that would be the equivalent of about $30 now.

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I guess the answer is "No"? Anybody?
Re: And now that we know how long it takes, would you pay $20 each for these beads? -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
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12/18/2014, 10:03:48



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No
Re: And now that we know how long it takes, would you pay $20 each for these beads? -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Frederick Post Reply
12/18/2014, 10:35:04

Happy Holidays Chris,

In 1973, the California Gift Show price for these particular cloisonné beads was eighteen dollars each. And if you bought one, you would have been fortunate to recover your investment because they are too big for most people to collect and wear gracefully: They are about an inch and a quarter in diameter, or 32mm -better suited for ornaments on a Christmas Tree.

If the same detail were applied to one half inch diameter or a little larger, the same amount of detail would have been astounding; the smaller the bead, the more difficult to apply wires and enamel.

Like you, I was initially attracted to these large beads. But after trying a few, I found them impossible to work with. And nobody wanted them.

Best Wishes for the New Year,

Frederick

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Thanks, Frederick - and a conundrum that I am unable to solve
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/18/2014, 14:37:16

The evidence I've been accumulating seems to suggest the following timeline:

1930s - last gasp of the old turn-of-the-century cloisonne workshops, given the coup d'grace by the Japanese occupation of 1937

1950s - the CCP subsidizes and supports the cloisonne craft, consolidating 40-something tottering workshops into the Beijing Enamel Company and the Beijing Art & Crafts Cooperative. Dedicated art students and older artisans coordinate to resuscitate the cloisonne industry, creating some extraordinary works in the process

1960s - early 1970s - The Cultural Revolution throws a monkey wrench into the whole cloisonne renaissance, with artists forced to produce works appealing to "the workers," whatever the hell that was supposed to be.
As any artist can tell you, stuff that appeals to the lower less-educated classes is 1) colorful 2) stereotypical. It has to be bright and reinforce common sentiments. Pretty, but totally corn-dog.

1970s-early 1990s - re-opening of trade with China after an embargo of 20 years creates a flood of cloisonne, as the Beijing Enamel Factory ramps up production to fill foreign orders, employing up to 2,000 workers and offering pensions to retirees. Chinese arts and crafts workshops encouraged by the government in order to generate the foreign exchange needed for technological information and infrastructure development.

1990s - Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms beginning in 1978 lead to China's dominant position in the world economy for consumer production and export; but, alas, leaves the traditional crafts such as cloisonne manufacture in the dust. Why work for a mere 22 Yuan a day in a cloisonne factory at a craft that takes about a decade to master when even the worst-paid person in a ShenZen hellhole of a sweatshop is pulling in 100 Yuan?

2000s to present - Beijing Enamel Company re-organizes after bankruptcy. Huge barriers to profitability, but soldiers onward both with beautiful new designs and repros of classic Ming pieces (that are promptly pirated and reproduced by knock-off workshops) with a reduced workforce, mostly female, of about 300.
See the video referenced at the start of this thread.

So, if consumers see no cachet in beads that are no longer cost-effective to produce, why make any more?



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Someone who succeeded in creating a nice necklace with one of these giant beads
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/18/2014, 19:58:04

RareTreasures, a RubyLane seller in Colorado, often features cloisonne necklaces in appealing compositions with gemstone, cinnabar, and other beads. She's the one who transformed that phoenix/dragon disk bead that I rejected into an attractive necklace.

This one has one of the giant pixu? dragon beads. Quite an eye-catching combination of beads, don't you think?

I'm always kinda curious as to who would actually buy and wear something like this. Are they over 50? Younger? What do they wear it with? Are they trying to impress someone else, or do they not give a rip?

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De gustibus non est disputandum
Re: Someone who succeeded in creating a nice necklace with one of these giant beads -- beadiste Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
12/18/2014, 21:27:00



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Oh hell no
Re: De gustibus non est disputandum -- Rosanna Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
12/19/2014, 17:52:53

Half the fun of pretending to be artistic or fashion-conscious is making catty remarks about other people's taste. Probably accounts for a huge percentage of Tweets.



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