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10/30/2014, 22:42:35
Adham Refaat had some wonderful items. First pictures are of various agates and dzi beads.
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10/30/2014, 22:47:28
Jaret had her usual wonderful display of all sorts of beads and pendants. She had some great coral and turquoise offerings.
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10/30/2014, 22:48:19
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Posted by: Sallie Post Reply
10/31/2014, 05:47:37
Thank you for showing the old jade carvings. Sallie
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10/31/2014, 10:32:49
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
10/31/2014, 11:04:44
Just wondering if these are indeed old ones. Not questioning them, just curious for my own reference. And how old is old?
And: Thanks for the report!
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/31/2014, 13:27:01
Floor - sorry, but I have no expertise in the area of stone, especially jade carvings, when it concerns old vs. antique vs. new, etc. Hopefully no one is thinking that I only took pictures of old beads. If there are some expert opinions out there, maybe you can chime in, if you can tell from the pictures!
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/31/2014, 16:23:56
I believe that Sallie was referring to the tiny "jade" which are Qing Dynasty -often found in elaborate kingfisher head dresses and sometimes sewn onto clothing.
Also they were adapted for usage in a variety of other ways. Whereas the larger two inch pendants are nephrite and serpentine from the '80's-'90's… Just Fred
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Posted by: Frederick II Post Reply
10/31/2014, 16:38:49
Many of these pieces were decorations on hairpins and crown-like hats: http://www.pinterest.com/elizabethkpayne/jewels-of-asia/
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Posted by: Sallie Post Reply
11/01/2014, 06:16:08
Yes I was referring to the tiny jade which I think are Qing and later.
But I feel the pendants are Ming and later generally ? I may be wrong. On my screen they look well carved and polished. But I am no expert except that I am liking them ! Sallie
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11/02/2014, 01:14:34
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Posted by: Sallie Post Reply
11/02/2014, 04:42:15
Maybe I should have said could be from Ming or Qing but this is a personal opinion only. Hope this answers your question.
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
11/02/2014, 05:28:17
I simply asked, because i just can not tell. I am learning more and more about glass beads, but stone beads.......not my expertise.
In Beijing, I could see a piece for under a dollar, and it would look the same to me as one from the museum. Well, I guess I can not know everything...... This guy seems to know what he is doing, though.
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Posted by: beadiste Post Reply
11/02/2014, 07:09:13
"Until at least the 13th century, “jade” in China was generally nephrite, a tough, white-to-green amphibole rock that was a favorite of stone carvers. The most important source was south of Hotan (Khotan) in the Kunlun mountains of western China; here, nephrite was recovered from both the White Jade and Black Jade rivers (Gump, 1962). Sometime in the 13th century, according to local lore as reported by Warry (Hertz, 1912), a Yunnan trader traveling through what is now northern Burma picked up a boulder to balance the load on his mule. When it was broken open, the brown-skinned rock revealed a vivid, “emerald” green material with the toughness of nephrite. The Chinese were captivated by this stone.
Also according to Warry, the Yunnan government sent expeditions to find the source of this unusual material in the 13th and 14th centuries, but they were unsuccessful. Although occasional small pieces of green jadeite would appear in China over the next 500 years, their origin remained a mystery until the late 18th century. Enter the Dragon. In 1784, Emperor Qianlong (who reigned from 1736 to 1796) extended China’s jurisdiction into northern Burma, where Chinese adventurers soon discovered the source of the green stone. From the late 18th century on, considerable amounts of jadeite were transported to Beijing and the workshops of China’s foremost jade carvers. Emperor Qianlong preferred the rich hues of this “new” jade (jadeite), and soon the finest semi-transparent rich green fei-ts’ui (“kingfisher”) material came to be known as “Imperial jade” (Hertz, 1912).
A well-established route for jadeite from Burma to China existed by 1798. Although political and other circumstances forced several alterations in the original route, the “jade road” – from Hpakan through Baoshan and Kunming in Yunnan – operated until World War II." --Richard Hughes LATER: Lest my post subject be interpreted as too categorical, it was in reference to small jade trinkets likely to be found in markets.
Related link: http://www.palagems.com/burma_jade.htm
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
10/30/2014, 22:51:34
Paul Johnson's table always has a great selection of Venetian beads, other beads, finished necklaces, as well as bottles, African items, etc.
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10/31/2014, 18:35:19
"In 200 years they will be valuable antiques!"
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Posted by: karavanserai Post Reply
11/03/2014, 02:59:33
You surely picked quite interesting bead displays. Thank you!
Is the whole show focussing on older beads? Or is it your selection from a more eclectic venue? Just curious.
Too bad it is that far away, but your report made it a bit more near.
Thanks again.
martine
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Posted by: Rosanna Post Reply
11/04/2014, 11:56:01
Besides the ones I photographed, there were two African traders with the usual assortment of new stuff, and maybe 5% of their merchanside was old trade beads. A couple of other tables had older items as well. The rest of the show was a typical bead show with new beads of all kinds, jewelry supplies, lampwork beads by various artists, beaded jewelry & other beaded items, etc. It's a lovely show, held every April and October, and worth seeing if you can make the trip. Check the details on the web site for the L.A. Bead Society. In April, the Orange County Bead Society has their show on the Saturday just prior to the LABS show on Sunday, so you can do two great shows in the same weekend. There is some overlap in the sellers, but that does not diminish the fun! Note that the Orange County show is in Santa Ana while the LABS show is in Culver City.
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11/04/2014, 11:56:28
Besides the ones I photographed, there were two African traders with the usual assortment of new stuff, and maybe 5% of their merchanside was old trade beads. A couple of other tables had older items as well. The rest of the show was a typical bead show with new beads of all kinds, jewelry supplies, lampwork beads by various artists, beaded jewelry & other beaded items, etc. It's a lovely show, held every April and October, and worth seeing if you can make the trip. Check the details on the web site for the L.A. Bead Society. In April, the Orange County Bead Society has their show on the Saturday just prior to the LABS show on Sunday, so you can do two great shows in the same weekend. There is some overlap in the sellers, but that does not diminish the fun! Note that the Orange County show is in Santa Ana while the LABS show is in Culver City.
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