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Posted by: Richard7 Post Reply
10/14/2014, 03:10:50

Hi

I am new to this forum though I have been reading your posts with a lot of enthusiastic interest for a while.

I am from the UK and I have been travelling through South East and Southern Asia for the past twelve years and I have been collecting beads along the way.

Would you be kind enough to cast your eye over this necklace and give me any information you can.

The length is 57.4cm

The diameter of the first disc on the right (the photograph showing the full necklace) is 1.6cm

Thank you.

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Posted by: Richard7 Post Reply
10/14/2014, 03:12:10

More photographs.

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10/14/2014, 03:17:06

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Re: Blue Disc Necklace - Bought in Myanmar -- Richard7 Post Reply Edit Forum Where am I?
Posted by: Will Post Reply
10/14/2014, 09:19:44

Hi Richard,

Welcome to the forum. It's difficult to be certain from the photographs, and it would be easier to be sure if we could see one lit from behind. But from what I can see, these appear to be blue glass discs. If authentic (there are some copies around as there are of just about everything) they come from the Samon Valley in Burma. In her book Early Landscapes of Myanmar, Elizabeth Moore shows some on page 113. She cites villagers from Ywa-din-gon as saying that these are found generally close to the waists of skeletal remains. They date from the late first millennium BCE.

Cheers,

Will



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How to photograph a Blue Disc Bead lit from behind, please?
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Posted by: Richard7 Post Reply
10/15/2014, 01:15:43

Hi Will

Thank you for your reply. I have, through a lot of mistakes, only just managed to photograph beads without them looking blurred. They are sill not perfect. To photograph with the light behind, I really have no idea how to do. Would you be kind enough to give me a few suggestions.

I have a large number of beads to photograph and I will be presenting them all on this site and I would like to follow your guidelines.

Kind regards

Richard



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My blue discs - Bought in Myanmar
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Posted by: Hendrik Post Reply
10/15/2014, 02:07:40

Hi Richard,

I saw your pictures. The discs are they glass? I seem to detect some grainlike structure in them like in wood?
I'll add some pictres I have at hand from glass beads I bought in Myanmar 10 years ago.

All the best,
Hendrik

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Glass or not glass?
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Posted by: Richard7 Post Reply
10/15/2014, 02:40:48

Hi Hendrik

They do not resemble the beads on your first photograph precisely. However, they do look remarkably similar to the discs on your second photograph. The ones I have do seem to be coarser on the exterior. I cannot say exactly, from looking at them and examining them by touch of they are glass or not.

I am still trying to think of a way to photograph them with a light behind so as to be able to 'see through' them.

I am intrigued.

Kind regards

Richard



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Posted by: Hendrik Post Reply
10/15/2014, 03:12:17

Hi Richard,

The different pictures are all from the same discs.

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Posted by: Richard7 Post Reply
10/15/2014, 03:29:16

Hi Hendrik

They are wonderful. They do look exactly the same as yours. I was interested by the comment from Will which stated their history. I was also not surprised, however to hear that their were copies. I do see a lot of copies on my travels in Asia, particularly of the dZi and Pyu beads and the Tawaravadee beads.

I would actually prefer to keep my collection of beads. I enjoy their history and their aesthetic delight. I do have to sell them on though as needs prevail.

Would you or anyone know what I should be asking for such a necklace? I am sorry to reduce the conversation to that of money.


Kind regards

Richard



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Wood?
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Posted by: floorkasp Post Reply
10/17/2014, 00:45:00

Ofcourse, I have not seen the beads up close, but they do really look like dyed wooden beads to me. They are much more regular in size than the glass ones, and they appear to show a grain.
Also, their hole is really small. More likely a drilled hole than a hole from wound glass beads.
How is their weight? They would be a lot heavier in glass than in wood.



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