| Original Message: many_roads1 Re: Re: Ancient North American double headed bird pendant |
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I have that booklet, and while it is informative, it is all very basic information that is more common sense than truly educational. These bone carvings, like the types posted below, that are the ones you typically see for sale, are VERY obviously modern bone carvings / fakes & show no true cultural accuracy, proper manufacture, age, wear, material, provenance, patina, etc. They are often small mask pendants, whale tails, hook shapes, etc. VERY few are actually made to deceive, but some after-market sellers are unscrupulous. I was seeing these types of pendants sold as Eskimo a lot in the last few years but haven't seen many lately. I actually recognized the text from your post about info on the book RE: LOWER FORT GARRY because it comes from a series of auctions from a trash seller called candlecoantiques2, who runs many similar scams as the seller pcfcollectables, that I complained about back in January. Low dollar African beads and pendants being sold as Native American items with HIGHLY misleading names, histories, etc... and receiving lots of bids! Frustrating, infuriating. In short, just don't buy junk, and if you don't know about what you're buying then you shouldn't bid, or you should get a second opinion. Easy enough... there are plenty of knowledgable people in this forum. many_roads1, I know your post was just a general word of caution to board members, and not trying to single me out, but just for the record... The double bird effigy that this post started with is completely authentic and dates to the 1800s or earlier. It came from ‘The Falls’ on the Oregon / Washington border - likely Celilo Falls, and it came out of the Col. Fitzhugh collection of Colorado Springs. There are only two others of these that I know of, one is shown on page 78 of ‘Indian Relics of the Pacific Northwest’ by Seaman and came from ‘The Bead Patch’ near The Dalles, and I am told there is one other is in a private collection in Washington, but I have never seen it. I still have the very detailed pictures on my other computer that show the degraded surface, patina, etc. I'll try to post them in the next couple days. My best, Stephen Parfitt @ Ancient Circles in Springfield, Illinois. All rights reserved by Bead Collector Network and its users |
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